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Site and Policy » Question regarding foalcon / anthro (of various types) » Post 1
Let me simplify it for you: Images that appear human-like, such as anthro characters, cannot be made to look underage, even if they are in a stylized form. For example, if you ask the generator to create an ‘anthro’ character (e.g., Twilight Sparkle, Rainbow Dash, or Sweetie Belle) and make them look young, the AI will likely do so (most AI platforms will just block your prompt), but posting that here would get you banned.
Site and Policy » Question regarding foalcon / anthro (of various types) » Topic Opener
Can we get descriptors somewhere of anthro, unguligrade anthro, semi-anthro, plantigrade anthro and possibly others, in addition to a table in the rule set of what is allowed to be mixed? Because I’m a bit confused.
If I understand rule 5 (bullet point 2) correctly, sexual situations of anthro mature character is fine, sexual situations of non-anthro underage character is fine, sexual situations of anthro underage character is not fine?
Do not upload images of characters in sexual depictions or scenarios who look underage and look human or human-like (anthro), regardless of style. Do not discuss or link to sites that knowingly host such content.
So, for a sexual image of an underage character which has fingers and feet, it’s forbidden and nothing else matters?
Just wanting to know if I understand this right, or if it’s more like “if it looks like MLP it’s fine, but if it looks like a real child cosplaying MLP, it’s not”.
Just wanting to know if I understand this right, or if it’s more like “if it looks like MLP it’s fine, but if it looks like a real child cosplaying MLP, it’s not”.
Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 152
Background Pony #A394
Yeah, I admit I’m basically just leaving it to the professionals at this point, with sincere hope.
And so did mine, if you replace “holiday” with “sick”. Vitamin supplements and cold medicine may get me on my feet and physically functional, but deeper brain work is out the window. I like to wave at it when it cartwheels by with a silly face.
Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 151
Maybe you could ask for prompt/workflow if someone was suspected of replicating styles for profit or just ban patreon links, idk. Who would even pay for this stuff?
Considering how many patreon links I’ve seen promoted on pixiv, you’d be very surprised at how frequent it is.
Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 150
@Background Pony #A394
Hey, you got further along that I did. 😁 My entire workflow has gone to Hell since the holiday season started.
Hey, you got further along that I did. 😁 My entire workflow has gone to Hell since the holiday season started.
At this point, my suggestion is to simply try out Adorable Blue Fox’s solution, as it’s already in a working state.
Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 149
@Diego96
Just because something is posted here doesn’t mean it was posted by the creator, or that the creator intended this place to be the primary audience.
Just because something is posted here doesn’t mean it was posted by the creator, or that the creator intended this place to be the primary audience.
People do all sorts of crazy and incomprehensible things. The rule simply wants to prevent someone from going “I’m artist X actually, here’s my patreon, don’t worry about how I manage to complete comms in a day for half the price of my other patreon”, or mimicking someone’s style to gen contentious content (foalcon, politics, whatever) and pretend the artist did it themselves (something that’s happened surprisingly often with just normal style emulation).
We aren’t going to ask for prompts or workflows here. Just simply, if you’re going to use an existing artist’s style for an image, don’t intentionally try to pass it off as their actual work for any reason.
Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 148
I really don’t get the impersonation part either. Isn’t this site primarly AI? Shouldn’t it be obvious that uploads are not from the original artists themselves?
Tantabus is intended to host images created using AI, either in their entirety or as a major tool in the creative workflow.
It made sense back on derpi when someone wasn’t posting the prompt and was using an artist LoRA to promote his patreon, but here that’d be entirely pointless.
Maybe you could ask for prompt/workflow if someone was suspected of replicating styles for profit or just ban patreon links, idk. Who would even pay for this stuff?
Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 147
Background Pony #A394
Wow… Just, wow, dude. Thanks so much for putting in that work! This looks fantabulous!
Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 146
Background Pony #A394
Well, this-and-that happened, and I got as far as having one program that can take a list of text and extract Derpi links from it, and then a second program that can check a list of links for whether each one contains an AI-tag, spitting out another list containing all positive matches without repeats.
After that, I had intended to simply use a setInterval() of some sort that went to the sorted links and favorited them, but ran face-first into CORS. (Again, very little experience with working outside of a singular webpage at a time.)
I also have no experience with making userscripts, so I feel I’m a bit out of my depth there. I also could’ve sworn I saw a link posted somewhere between this thread and the one on Derpi that lead to a downloader that would specifically grab comments in addition to the image in question, but I straight-up can’t find the post now. Oof.
Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 145
@FlatterDeN_AI
Now I am against any restrictions, since the road to DB is closed
Now I am against any restrictions, since the road to DB is closed
Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 143
@Background Pony #B2FD
It doesn’t matter what you disagree with there, I don’t care who steals what, even partially. I am for freedom of creativity, especially since part of the AI content now has a separate website. Here we are simply talking about “Damage to their business, or reputation” It even sounds disgusting, considering the big words they use to cover up this shit. It’s all stupidly about money, moderators are protecting artists, and we’re just going to pretend that everything is fine? I will show the middle finger to everyone who tells me what I should do.
It doesn’t matter what you disagree with there, I don’t care who steals what, even partially. I am for freedom of creativity, especially since part of the AI content now has a separate website. Here we are simply talking about “Damage to their business, or reputation” It even sounds disgusting, considering the big words they use to cover up this shit. It’s all stupidly about money, moderators are protecting artists, and we’re just going to pretend that everything is fine? I will show the middle finger to everyone who tells me what I should do.
Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 142
Background Pony #B2FD
In regards to Rule #1, ie. “style copying”So, the artists have already kicked us out of DB with their whining. And now we will have restrictions here too?! Well, that’s too much.
I disagree. If you look at how this rule is laid out, it specifically targets uses that would be either malicious or directly harmful to the artist by creating potential for confusion and impersonation.
This is already WAY more lenient than how it was on DB, where style emulation of any kind (even subtle or unintentional) was strictly forbidden when using AI (but somehow perfectly fine when a human artist does it).
Being a separate website from DB means we no longer need to appeal to the vocal minority of artists who constantly whine about “AI theft”, but that doesn’t mean we should tolerate genuinely harmful activities on this site, as there are many (even among the AI community) who would be uncomfortable with that.
This is already WAY more lenient than how it was on DB, where style emulation of any kind (even subtle or unintentional) was strictly forbidden when using AI (but somehow perfectly fine when a human artist does it).
Being a separate website from DB means we no longer need to appeal to the vocal minority of artists who constantly whine about “AI theft”, but that doesn’t mean we should tolerate genuinely harmful activities on this site, as there are many (even among the AI community) who would be uncomfortable with that.
Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 141
I believe that Tantabus should be as free as possible in expression, but with strict quality control
Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 140
In regards to Rule #1, ie. “style copying”
So, the artists have already kicked us out of DB with their whining. And now we will have restrictions here too?! Well, that’s too much.
Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 139
- We may delete images that unabashedly mimic existing artists if these appear to be harmful to their business or reputation
- eg. claiming to be the artist to take up commissions or merch sales
- or using the artist’s style to create images of a contentious theme, or one the artist is known to be against
- Images looking “kind of in the style of” or “giving the vibe of” are not a concern
- We (still) do not care about what prompts, models, LORAs, workflows, brushes, or whatever tools used
That’s a relief!
In terms of tags it should go like “artist:(used style)”?
Literally the opposite of the entire point! Tagging art as using a style and reporting it as using a style are both incredibly subjective and bad. Reporting gives mods headaches, and tagging misleads viewers. If it helps, think of this without AI in mind. Would you ever tag someone’s drawn art as being in the style of another artist? No, that would be strange and rude… Except in those cases where that was the entire intent of the art, of course. So tags for JoJo style and such are fine. The amount of PokeHidden style images I’ve seen by various artists also makes me think that would be a safe exception to tag. Styles even when named after artists, are never owned by that artist. Copying styles is incredibly common and normal. So I only see reason to tag a style being in cases where it is a distinctive and common style like the two example above. (Though “distinctive and common” is a bit subjective, I can’t think of how else to word it.)
At least, that’s where I’d draw the line on style tags. To just use the same ruling as we’d use on a non-AI site. So like tagging attempts to look like the art is from a specific game or show.
Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 138
@Scarlet Ribbon
For specifying, there is the description; alternatively the comment section.
For specifying, there is the description; alternatively the comment section.
Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 137
@Background Pony #04CD
General rule of thumb is you should avoid it…
General rule of thumb is you should avoid it…
Subjectively, it’s one thing to go “damn, this artist vanished before this character was introduced, would love to see them in their style”, and another to just use one existing style and never move on…
Rules-wise it continuously runs the risk of “artist X draws Y content, and they just released a Y content folio that has images just like these ones someone’s generating”. Even if unintentional, it veers into a shitty area. And mods get pulled into shitty areas, and nobody, not us and not you, want that; we’d like to be as hands off as possible without inviting pitchfork mobs and lawyers to rally at our gates.
As for tagging them… don’t. I’ve already witnessed way too many discussions where someone says “This looks exactly like X’s work” and loads of people agreeing only for it to not only not look remotely similar, but not even used anywhere in the workflow, and just built up from some guy’s overspecific focus on belly buttons or something utterly coincidental. Would be a whole lot of bad calls and effectively tag vandalism/vigilantism going around.
Also, fixing up a unique “your style” is actually fun, and makes your work look unique and identifiable as yours.
Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 136
Background Pony #B2FD
@Background Pony #04CD
“artist:(used style)” would be a terrible idea. It would cause the exact kind of confusion we need to avoid.
“artist:(used style)” would be a terrible idea. It would cause the exact kind of confusion we need to avoid.
Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 135
@Background Pony #04CD
I don’t like the idea of tagging artist:(used style) for style emulation. That creates confusion that an artist might have made a work. I think “Style Emulation” as a tag would probably be the ideal, and maybe “Emulation:(artist)” if we absolutely feel the need to specify.
I don’t like the idea of tagging artist:(used style) for style emulation. That creates confusion that an artist might have made a work. I think “Style Emulation” as a tag would probably be the ideal, and maybe “Emulation:(artist)” if we absolutely feel the need to specify.
Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 134
Background Pony #04CD
@Admin
Soo am I reading this right
We can copy styles as long as they not for sale and we properly credit tag them right?
Contentious theme is understandable
Sounds good to me
Soo am I reading this right
We can copy styles as long as they not for sale and we properly credit tag them right?
Contentious theme is understandable
Sounds good to me
In terms of tags it should go like “artist:(used style)” and “prompter:(prompter himself)”?
Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 133
Merry Christmas.
And also, rules update for issues several have voiced concern about:
Rule #9, for image quality, has been amended to be less strict.
- Short of an image looking like a late-state Picasso painting from the thumbnail itself, staff only expect the issues to be properly tagged
- Images of exceptionally poor quality or with absurd errors may still be removed. The tech is well past the point where errors like >>2964 are “OK”
- If you’re going for Thingpone or some sort of nightmare fuel, that’s understandable, but passing random failed generations as “I’m just channeling my inner Dali” isn’t
- Tag Guidelines page has been updated, and relevant tags created and flagged as “important”
- An additional default filter has been set up that spoilers these sort of common quality issues
- This isn’t really meant as a common use filter, but is a convenience for anyone wanting to copy them to their own filters
In regards to Rule #1, ie. “style copying”
- Text hasn’t changed since last revision, but policy has been clarified within staff (holidays etc.); apologies to anyone affected in the meanwhile
- We may delete images that unabashedly mimic existing artists if these appear to be harmful to their business or reputation
- eg. claiming to be the artist to take up commissions or merch sales
- or using the artist’s style to create images of a contentious theme, or one the artist is known to be against
- Images looking “kind of in the style of” or “giving the vibe of” are not a concern
- We (still) do not care about what prompts, models, LORAs, workflows, brushes, or whatever tools used
Some of the text in the AI Quality page will need updating, but bear with us as that might take some time. As well, we’re aware that there are bits and bobs here still missing or looking funny; we’ll work on sorting things out as soon as possible.
Site and Policy » How I am importing my Derpibooru favs » Post 2
@Annalee
thank you. The script is working here :p
thank you. The script is working here :p
Site and Policy » How I am importing my Derpibooru favs » Post 1
stsyn also created a script to transfer upvotes and/or favorites which is available on Derpibooru.
Site and Policy » How I am importing my Derpibooru favs » Topic Opener
some people should be worried about losing the entire list of Derpibooru favorites related to AI Art, because these images will be removed in January from derpibooru website.
I could have a software to do it automatically, but I did it manually.
I could have a software to do it automatically, but I did it manually.
https://derpibooru.org/search?q=faved_by_id%3A383399%2C+ai+generatedi entered my list of favorites in the derpibooru, and as I know all AI images were imported here with the original source url of the Derpibooru, I was visiting image by image and pasting the id of the derpibooru in the tantabus to favorite the images manually
https://tantabus.ai/search?q=derpibooru+import%2C+source_url%3A*3503287*i will leave an example here under how to use my tip. It worked and I can get my whole fav page back :p
https: // derpibooru.org / images / 3452011
https: // tantabus.ai / search?q=derpibooru+import%2C+source_url%3A* 3452011 *
https: // derpibooru.org / images / 3452011
https: // tantabus.ai / search?q=derpibooru+import%2C+source_url%3A* 3452011 *
The tutorial is basically that, you will visit the best images and re-fav on Tantabus or will be crazy like me and refav your entire page of drawings that made me open +80 pages. :3
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